I just want one of these devices to ship! I really wanted an ultra-portable notebook for the new school year. Whoever ships first will get my money. Well, unless the rumors of the Eee's price hike are true (starting at $269-$299 with a *2GB* drive).

I agree that the rumor Eee price hike, if true, makes it much less of a value compared to the NanoBook.

However, the comments on the CPU are just plain weird. Deriding the A110 as having inferior performance while ignoring the fact that a 1.2ghz C7-M is going to have the same bad performance, if not worse, is a bit biased (remember my comments on the blogs vs magazines article?). Ditto for the battery life comments - the A110 is already in shipping notebooks. We know what the battery life is like. Spreading FUD about it while pushing the C7-M is kind of... biased.

Eee PC will more probably have Intel Celeron M, so it will be very good performer over NanoBook. Pitty it will not have DVI port like NanoBook.

The EEE will be particularly attractive to people like me who currently buy old (5 or 6 years) used (because new ones or so bloody expensive) light weight notebooks, wipe windows off the machine, and run Linux.

I haven't been anywhere on my business travels in recent years where I didn't have ready access to Wifi (and often wired) internet access. Under those circumstances, I'm happy to use my laptop for web browsing and email, and I can remotely login to my office machine for anything that requires more computational power. Given that my current laptop has a 900 Mhz pentium III, I'm sure that whichever processor the EEE ends up will be adequate.

"Given that my current laptop has a 900 Mhz pentium III, I'm sure that whichever processor the EEE ends up will be adequate."

I wouldn't bet the farm on that. The current crop of UMPC CPUs are actually pretty comparable to that.

"The VIA NanoBook is slated to go on sale for $599 this September in Europe....." September!? Too late.....

And rumors of the everex ce260, the US model of the nanobook, will release when? Anyone know?

I think the Eee fills a slightly different space than the Nanobook. I have my home PC for big time work and my work laptop for portable business applications. I'm looking for a vacation and on-the-go device that lets me do surfing, picture uploading, reservation making, emailing and chatting. I think the Eee might fill that spot perfectly and cheaply (I hope).

By the way, retailers are taking preorders of the Eee with these specs:

EeePC 700 - 2GB SSD, 256MB RAM (!!!), no camera - $259, black only, limited production

EeePC 700 - 2GB SSD, 256MB RAM, camera, case - $299, black or white

EeePC 701 - 4GB SSD, 512MB RAM, camera, case - $399, black or white

Retailers are apparently not supposed to divulge the processor, which is rumored to run between 700-900 MHz.

The price of the EeePC 701 has officially doubled. Sure, there's a new 700 model (and an even more gimped 700 "lite") but I'm not sure 256MB of RAM will be enough.

Who's up for a Nanobook?

Well given that the book is designed as a protocol computer to bridge the educational/technological divide. I applaud BOTH efforts *the nano,and the EEEPC) as more low-cost alternatives providing more accessibility and opportunities for third-world countries, but honestly, also in our school systems where $ is based on students and surrounding socio-geographical economics. I DO plan on getting an EEEPC, and even though slightly disappointed at the price hike, it is STILL an attempt to broaden the scope of shrinking the technological/educational barriers. 8)

eeePC has 900 MHZ pentium M 512mb ram with a 4, 8 or 16GB SSD according to the asus site.

Ahhh,

The question is ... Is the EEEPC SSD a standard compact flash or SD card or is it welded down? I'm assuming the RAM is welded.

The Nanobook supposedly has replaceable RAM and disk.

The ideal would be to get a 2G/512 EEEPC Unit now, and when the price of a 16G CF drops to $50 replace it. 256M is not really enough, 512 is fine.

Both Units have USB, but it would be nicer if they came with a built in SD or CF slot.

I didn't mention it in the article, but the VIA NanoBook does have a 4 in 1 card reader.

ASUS would make a killing if it found a way to keep the $199 price tag or stay anywhere near it.

Which estores are taking pre-orders?...

ASUS admitted that $199 is for certain client ONLY.
General customers might pay a price around $299.

I want one too. If Asus is reads this START SHIPPING !!!

Linux today is a full operating system. I've been using linux only on all my computers (that makes a Server, 4 desktops and a portable) for four years now.

Any machine willing to run linux will be a very interesting product to buy. That lowers the price tag, and also makes technological racism vanish.

Allasus.com is taking pre-orders.

Since when is 256 megs of RAM is barely enough to run XP? I had a desktop with 256 megs and an 800MHz PIII that I used for 3 years with XP, and I never had a lag problem with everyday usage. Do I have the processor to thank for that?

Seems to me the bigger issue with the Eee is the storage issue. I sure would like to find out if the SSD is removable, but Asus seems content to drive us insane waiting.

This article was about the Nanobook VS EeePc.

Eeepc is the winner based on price.Nanobook $599
EeePc $259. One could buy 2 Eeepc's for the price of the Nanobook and have some left over for some R(h)AM.

I will buy both when they are released. :roll

The author of this article is not technologically versed. First linux is a FULL OPERATING SYSTEM. Second to imply that linux is not a full operating system against Windows is plainly just ignorance or simply supporting Windows over linux with a bias. The author indicates a bias by stating he does not think the mainstream of people are ready for linux. Sell people a $199 to $300 laptop with linux and I bet they give it a try. Also on a side issue: who the hell loads World of Warcraft or any intensive video game on a machine that is an office dedicated machine? It does not appear to be set up for gaming and in that regard is significantly limited. To use a video game as a software package comparison is just not effective. The Asus laptop will be in a league of its own when release since it will be below the $400.00 for a lightweight technological device. I mean imagine as a business owner what I think: I could buy two VIAs for $1200 or at an estimated $300 I could by my employees four ASUS laptops. I love the scales of economy; a rather important issue NOT discussed in this article.

In my humble opinion the author needs to get a little more educated.

Is the battery life comment based on the processor alone? I would think having solid state memory would take a lot less power?

Windows xp pro runs quite well on my Thinkpad 1200 with a 500 mhz celeron, 160mb of ram and a 5gb hdd. In fact, because i've had to keep things streamlined, it's probably the most responsive xp system i've ever used. startup time is faster than the amd 64 x2 3800+ i use at work.

The mainstream is primed and ready for Linux. The mainstream users I see pretty much only use two pieces of software anyway - a web browser and a media player. Plus, once you've got a linux system up and running, it's easy enough for grandma to figure out, which is something I can't say for any version of Windows.

Honestly I think the streamlined EEE PC is just brilliant. For the typical use of a work laptop it has more than enough. Granted it won't be replacing peoples desktops but that's not what it is for. It should be a supplement to the standard desktop and the combine price of a decent desktop and the EEE PC will still be less in most cases than a powerful laptop. Using the flash drive is actually quite inspired with it's faster boot times and better shock resistance. I love Linux and have been thoroughly impressed with newer distros like Ubuntu but there are the drawbacks of compatibility with most programs. I do however see Open Office sufficing in most cases though. The Nanobook is really I higher end machine that I don't see as a comparison since it costs twice as much. Also from what I've been hearing the ram will be upgradeable for the 4 and 8 gig versions and possible for the 2 gig as well. With 3 usb ports and a flash card slot there is plenty of room for more storage with thumb drives and the such so if extra storage is needed it can be plugged in. I'm very interested in seeing what happens with this. BTW if you get on the preorder list for the EEE PC now, don't expect to receive it until some time in December.

hmmm

:roll Asus shipped Oct 17 2007 to home town.
Sold out 10,000 units within minutes of delivery.

People were standing in line to purchase this device.

Some people on assignment in Taiwan purchased for their
follow co-workers in United Kingdom.

This item sold for between $350.00 and $400.00
Model 4GB 512MB 701 Eee Pc

Sorry, the first batch of eeePCs was only 100 units, a far cry from 10,000.

better than nothing
..... where is nanobook?

How can you compare them when you haven't tried them? Windows is a 'full OS'? Vista on a subnotebook. What's the point?

The 'reviewer' doesn't quite get it.

Just because it's free doesn't mean it's worse than something that costs loads and is unreliable.

Can you boot this critter thru one of its USB ports or perhaps the SD or other card slots? Is the 4G flash HD user-upgradable? All other specs look pretty good. I'd buy at $400 if these two questions can both be answered 'yes'. Respond to This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it

Can you boot this critter thru one of its USB ports or perhaps the SD or other card slots? Is the 4G flash HD user-upgradable? All other specs look pretty good. I'd buy at $400 if these two questions can both be answered 'yes'. Respond to This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it

the SSD are weilded but the ram are upgradable DD2

My opinion is that out of the two mentioned "nice" UMPCs an excelelnt one could be constructed: CPU isn't that important, but what I would like to see is min 1GB of RAM, 6+ GB SSD, 1024x768 screen, WiFi, VGA/DVI port, choice of OS (e.g. Windows as an extra), sub 1kg weight and 4+hrs of mobility. :grin

I feel the Linux OS and apt-get for installations and updates are ideal.

Overall, I think people should hold off a little while before buying this laptop... I think it is a great idea, but it is too limiting for now... Resolution, Storage capacity, RAM are too limiting, and the price keeps going up... I mean for a few hundred more, you can get a low end laptop without the limitation of the EeePC 701.

The baseline Dell Inspiron Notebook 1420 running Ubuntu is about $750. I mean on e-bay this moment, some EeePC 701, are going for as much as $450 and $500... That to me, too much for such a limited laptop...

I feel if Asus profides a system with a 10-inch screen, 1024x768 resolution, a 40-GB storage, 1-GB RAM, etc., and they are able to keep it around $550 or less... I think it would be perfect to buy...

I think buyers should hold off and wait for the next generation of Asus Mini-Laptops...
--Joe :)

The Nano comes with VIA hardware. VIA support for linux is, quite frankly, shite. Check out the Linux forum on VIAArena if you don't believe me.

If you want a fast, cheap PC then you have to go with the eeePC. The eeePC will also run XP but you'll have to pay about USD50 more for it. What a joke.

Joe, if the current machine costs $400 with 7" screen and 4gb SSD and 512 RAM, how (and why, since people are buying it up) would Asus sell what you're asking for for a mere $150 more??

As an eeepc owner, I'm quite quite happy with this machine. After a few days on it, I'm typing at close to 85% of my regular speed -- transitioning BACK to my MacBook (13" screen) actually is harder than switching TO the eee, accuracy and speed-wise.

I've bumped into the 512RAM limit enough that I'm going to boost it to 1gb but I'm not sure the Xandros kernel, as compiled, will recognize the extra; apparently any other OS put on DOES.

And, for the last visitor, you do NOT have to pay more to run XP -- unless you're BUYING XP (this is why they went with Linux in the first place: don't have to pay M$ extortionate prices). Out of the box, my machine will run anything I care to put on it (including, if YouTube vid is to be believed, Leopard). Frankly, the fact that the eee runs Linux (albeit Xandros/KDE...) and the Via runs *shudder* Windows is one of the MAIN reasons to buy the eeepc.

This ain' a toy, it's a fully functioning laptop. For $400. WHOO HOOOO!

Why does it say that the via "runs full operating system" wtf, it what way is linux not a full operating system, and if your weird you can run windows on it too.

Visitor above - you are spot on - the linux included is a distro - it contains far more than Windows does - what makes windows "full" and linux not? - the answer is a simple MS bias.
Visitor on 22 November - $50 extra for XP - that's how it works - use linux and don't pay $50. It does seem odd that MS sell a product you can get a superior equivalent of for free.
Why would you want XP? - familiarity? Be brave - it really is better being Free.

You can find tutorials on how to install different os's for the EEEpc at http://eeetutorials.blogspot.com :grin

How does the ASUS eeePC compare to the VIA NanoBook. In summary your article seems to say, you don't know, you haven't compared. :zzz

"Runs full operating system" .. whaat? :grin

I'd rather buy one with a Linux thank you. It's more "full".

Being a Linux zealot myself, I agree with the comments about "full" MS OS ... however, I think they were trying to point out that the version was not XP/Vista Embedded or Windows Mobile. All the same ... I think it is sad that most users would be shocked if they understood the depth of what is included with most Linux Distros vs. Windows.

aku tidak pilih dua-duanya, karena aku belum tentu bisa beli. masih mahal untuk kantong kita-kita... :grin

What on earth do you mean "runs full OS"? :?

You got that the wrong way around. Of the two machines, the EeePC has the better, significantly more comprehensive OS installed by default.

EeePC Included Applications:

* AbiWord - word processor
* CodeWeavers CrossOver Linux - allows running Windows programs (may be removed or offered as trial software)
* Gnumeric - spreadsheet program
* KPresenter - presentation program
* Kopete - instant messaging client
* Mozilla Firefox - graphical web browser
* Mozilla Thunderbird - email client
* MPlayer - media player
* OpenOffice - office suite
* PDF Reader (unknown)
* Penguin Racer - game
* Project Management (unknown)
* Skype - VoIP program
* Solitaire - game
* Tux Paint - bitmap graphics editor for children
* Xandros Antivirus (powered by ClamAV)
* Xandros Control Center (customized version of KDE Control Center)
* Xandros File Manager (replaces Konqueror in KDE)
* Xandros Photo Manager (powered by digiKam)

What on earth do you mean "runs full OS"? :?

You got that the wrong way around. Of the two machines, the EeePC has the better, significantly more comprehensive OS installed by default.

EeePC Included Applications:

* AbiWord - word processor
* CodeWeavers CrossOver Linux - allows running Windows programs (may be removed or offered as trial software)
* Gnumeric - spreadsheet program
* KPresenter - presentation program
* Kopete - instant messaging client
* Mozilla Firefox - graphical web browser
* Mozilla Thunderbird - email client
* MPlayer - media player
* OpenOffice - office suite
* PDF Reader (unknown)
* Penguin Racer - game
* Project Management (unknown)
* Skype - VoIP program
* Solitaire - game
* Tux Paint - bitmap graphics editor for children
* Xandros Antivirus (powered by ClamAV)
* Xandros Control Center (customized version of KDE Control Center)
* Xandros File Manager (replaces Konqueror in KDE)
* Xandros Photo Manager (powered by digiKam)

Mr Bjorn Stromberg shows his ignorance when ignoring that the eeepc ships with a full operating system PLUS a large bunch of applications that makes the buyer get a fully operative computer without adding anyting to it.

I decided not to read anyting pass that statement given that the reviewer showed enough evidence evidencing that he doesn't have a clue.



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The biggest problem of the Eee PC is the low battery life. 2.5 hours is not suitable for mobile work. Compare that with the HP LX200 from the early 90s which also was a diskless system, but operated with easy available AA batteries and for days and weeks.
And since MS-DOS was hard-wired into the chips, no start-up time was required at all.

I am waiting for an eeepc and i know it runs windows XP! so there!

What kind of stupid comment is "runs full operating system?" So Linux isn't a full operating system? What ignorance. Have fun in your "I have to buy or pirate every little piece of software," windoze world. Idiot.

Obviously we all agree that the reviewer is lopsided on the "full operating system" stuff. There is also much more to consider such as the fact that some of the competition (Everex to name one) doesn't run a solid state drive. I think that some of those battery life statistics are going to be pretty far off when you take SSD vs. Legacy hard discs into account. Also, make note that the cooling requirements on the models that don't have SSDs is higher and some manuf. aren't putting fans in them (!?!?!?, I know). I have a small blurb on my blog about the Cloudbook vs. the EEE (bytebybite.com) as well.

Also, the reviewer is listing specs for one of the lowest models available for the Eee and then stating the smaller hard drive as a bad thing. IMO the smaller SSD drive is better. How much storage space do you need when you're running a FULL Linux distro, all open source software, and working on a mobile unit? It's not like you're going to be backing up your ISOs and MP3 archives to it.

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